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so that's 60% of the deficit right there. so this stuff about cutting taxes and that's going to stimulate the economy, this is supply side economics. >> it is. >> very much -- >> and it worked in the '80s under reagan and the '90s under bill clinton. >> reagan ran enormous deficits and clinton surplus. >> bill clinton cut spending with newt gingrich. not tax rates. never. >> the tax increases have happened. the tax increases have happened. that part of the balance is there. now it is time to look at the other side which is spending cuts and entitlement reform. that's what hasn't come yet. >> i have to get out. thanks very much. appreciate it. you're both great. so are house republicans prepared to put up a spending cut fight with the president some let's get t? let's get the gop perspective. mr. roscom, what is your response to president obama's rift today? >> well, look, this is president obama's sequester to pay for the old ket credebt ceiling deal. that being said, the president also in december last time you and i talked
so that's 60% of the deficit right there. so this stuff about cutting taxes and that's going to stimulate the economy, this is supply side economics. >> it is. >> very much -- >> and it worked in the '80s under reagan and the '90s under bill clinton. >> reagan ran enormous deficits and clinton surplus. >> bill clinton cut spending with newt gingrich. not tax rates. never. >> the tax increases have happened. the tax increases have happened. that part of the...
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saying deficits decline as a percentage of gdp could dip as low as 2.4% in 2015. then they start to rise again in 2016. that 10-year-old cbo deficit projection increased overall to 4.6 trillion for the 2013 decade up from $20.2 trillion in it's previous. cbo sees real gdp growing 1.4% in 2013, the sub died growth limits businesses to hire more workers, cbo projecting unemployment rate to stay near 8% this year, also expecting unemployment rate to remain above 7.5% through 2014. debt and deficits will be larger, the cbo says, if current laws were modified and rising health care cost and increased federal health care subsidies, spending cuts and higher taxes with offset deficit increases long-term says the cbo. over and over again this report talks about those short-term budget decisions on the horizon including march 1st, the automatic spending reductions, sequester. what does congress and the white house do about the expiring continuing resolution in late march, funding for the operations of government and, divorce, the next round of the debt limit debate due to h
saying deficits decline as a percentage of gdp could dip as low as 2.4% in 2015. then they start to rise again in 2016. that 10-year-old cbo deficit projection increased overall to 4.6 trillion for the 2013 decade up from $20.2 trillion in it's previous. cbo sees real gdp growing 1.4% in 2013, the sub died growth limits businesses to hire more workers, cbo projecting unemployment rate to stay near 8% this year, also expecting unemployment rate to remain above 7.5% through 2014. debt and...
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we got that trade deficit number narrowest in three years. >> good numbers from china. >> if we can believe them. i don't know. depends how you feel about the numbers. still the numbers were there. that was some after what the market was chewing on today. but a low volume day. >> a lot of talk about apple. we're going go after apple in a second. everyone is talking about apple and its excess cash and what's going to happen and this lawsuit from mine einhorn. >> $137 billion dollar of excess cash. that's a lot of cash. should they be returning it to shareholders? einhorn says give it back to us in the form of preferred shares. he's filed this lawsuit. i think it's interesting really that apple even responded. so often you don't heart company say anything when all of this buzz is going around. i don't know what are going to do. i don't know what the right thing is to do. but i know they should make the shareholders feel like it's worth holding that stock. >> i think there's going to be a lot of movement on that. many thanks to cnbc's courtney reagan who's going to stay with us. we have two sa
we got that trade deficit number narrowest in three years. >> good numbers from china. >> if we can believe them. i don't know. depends how you feel about the numbers. still the numbers were there. that was some after what the market was chewing on today. but a low volume day. >> a lot of talk about apple. we're going go after apple in a second. everyone is talking about apple and its excess cash and what's going to happen and this lawsuit from mine einhorn. >> $137...
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what's a better way to reduce the deficit? >> pro-growth policies and i think we can do that through comprehensive tax return where we can lower rates, broaden the base and have a less complicated tax code and independent experts show if we can do that with spending cuts, we can create 1 million jobs in the first year. >> well, it just seems like we keep kicking the can down the road, delaying, delaying, delaying. the cbo says the automatic budget cuts would cut our gdp in half. given that, does it make you more inclined to sign on to the president's plan? >> look, house republicans passed last august a plan to change the mix of those spending cuts in the first year, and that's still out there, but what the president did, he's got his revenue at beginning of the year. more revenue will just hurt the economy. it will cost us jobs, so what we really need now is the second piece of the balanced approach the president called for in december which is the beginning of reining in our debt and deficits. again, on the president's commi
what's a better way to reduce the deficit? >> pro-growth policies and i think we can do that through comprehensive tax return where we can lower rates, broaden the base and have a less complicated tax code and independent experts show if we can do that with spending cuts, we can create 1 million jobs in the first year. >> well, it just seems like we keep kicking the can down the road, delaying, delaying, delaying. the cbo says the automatic budget cuts would cut our gdp in half....
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coupled with smart spending reductions in order to bring down our deficit. and we can do it in a gradual way. >> so what does smart spending cuts mean? judd gregg is co-chair of the fix the debt campaign. robert reich is from the university of california at berkeley and author of "beyond outrage." both are cnbc contributors and we thank you for joining us. good to see you both. senator gregg, what's a smart spending cut? what's that mean? >> i don't know. i think it's a washington speak word for probably no cuts. >> no cuts? >> that's the tradition in washington. they say if it's not a good cut, don't make the cut. the fact is there's going to have to be decisions made here. taxes were raised at the end of the year. and we know we can't get to the fiscal responsibility we need without our entitlement accounts. they'll vo to step up. >> do you think we will actually see spending cuts on the entitlements? >> what i think is going to happen here is you're going to e see the sequester. it's going to go forward. the pressure is going to be so strong from groups t
coupled with smart spending reductions in order to bring down our deficit. and we can do it in a gradual way. >> so what does smart spending cuts mean? judd gregg is co-chair of the fix the debt campaign. robert reich is from the university of california at berkeley and author of "beyond outrage." both are cnbc contributors and we thank you for joining us. good to see you both. senator gregg, what's a smart spending cut? what's that mean? >> i don't know. i think it's a...
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in many ways between the fed and the deficit spending on the deficit level, even though it's going to be smaller this year, it's hard to beat, that so i think the sequester, where we really demonstrate that the growth in many ways is paid for because when you stop it's going to take away jobs, those kind of black reality swans will be the issue for the market ahead. >> brian gendron, where are you on this and how do you want to be invested? >> we don't think this rally is over entirely. if you extrapolate a 5% or 6% return we've had so far this year, we'll have one of the greatest stock markets of all time in the face of, you know, good earnings but not great earnings, in the face of still slow growth. i think that's a little unrealistic so we'll probably get a little bit of a pullback, unusual if we didn't. still recommending a substantial allocation to equities. this year looks like last year, political uncertainty. last year was a good year for stocks. as for stocks versus bonds, i've been thinking it was the end of a 30-year bull market in bonds for the past three years. by the sa
in many ways between the fed and the deficit spending on the deficit level, even though it's going to be smaller this year, it's hard to beat, that so i think the sequester, where we really demonstrate that the growth in many ways is paid for because when you stop it's going to take away jobs, those kind of black reality swans will be the issue for the market ahead. >> brian gendron, where are you on this and how do you want to be invested? >> we don't think this rally is over...
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the deficit that way. but if you aren't concerned about the deficit, if you think job growth is the most important thing and growth in general, then i don't think you should either cut taxes -- i don't think you should raise taxes or cut spending right now. i think you should focus just on stimulus. >> what they should do is slash across the board all these goofy departments, just really rip into them. and along with that pro-growth tax reform. especially pro-growth business tax reform. and then you'll have the kind of growth that keith is talking about that would actually solve the financial position. >> keith wants growth in general. i don't want growth in general. i want private sector growth. i don't want a bunch of phony government spending that's going to proup gdp numbers. i want private sector growth. if the president wants to make a deal where we get rid of some of these short-term spending cuts for long-term spending cuts he can, but the deal's not going to be -- he doesn't want to do it. he want
the deficit that way. but if you aren't concerned about the deficit, if you think job growth is the most important thing and growth in general, then i don't think you should either cut taxes -- i don't think you should raise taxes or cut spending right now. i think you should focus just on stimulus. >> what they should do is slash across the board all these goofy departments, just really rip into them. and along with that pro-growth tax reform. especially pro-growth business tax reform....
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i think we got to see a plan that will fix our long-term deficit problem. we do that, i think we could have really great growth. >> senator, if the dow sets a new record, it was in october of 2007, that it was last at levels of this kind, what does that tell you? >> not much. i have messed around, true layman, in the great fields of finance. but i can tell you one thing, if you just want to be thrilled by quarter to quarter stuff, that isn't going to do anything for this country. you ought to start thinking decade by decade. because the math is impossible to miss. so the dow, i always loved it that there would be a rise in the dow and they say what caused that? because the super bowl or president's election happened on -- that's like reading pigeon droppings on the edge of the dirksen building. this is irrational exuberance still. >> we will stop rating pigeon droppings. >> okay. >> and let's go to your deficit reduction. we have seen in slow motion, almost 2 ppt 5 trillion through discretionary cuts and through the fiscal cliff deal. how much more revenue
i think we got to see a plan that will fix our long-term deficit problem. we do that, i think we could have really great growth. >> senator, if the dow sets a new record, it was in october of 2007, that it was last at levels of this kind, what does that tell you? >> not much. i have messed around, true layman, in the great fields of finance. but i can tell you one thing, if you just want to be thrilled by quarter to quarter stuff, that isn't going to do anything for this country....
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some say growth initiatives must await final action on deficit reductions. well, the best way to reduce deficits is through economic growth. [ applause ] get ready for a lot more of that new-plane smell. we're building the youngest, most modern fleet among the largest us airlines to ensure that you are more comfortable and connected than ever. we are becoming a new american. barrow island has got rare kangaroos. ♪ chevron has been developing energy here for decades. we need to protect their environment. we have a strict quarantine system to protect the integrity of the environment. forty years on, it's still a class-a nature reserve. it's our job to look after them. ...it's my job to look after it. ♪ >>> welcome back to "the kudlow report." in this half hour, mahmoud ahmadinejad says iran is now a nuclear country. does that mean the rogue regime already has nuclear weapons? we'll get an answer later on. on what would have been president reagan's 102nd birthday, we will honor reagan with a look at many of his messages that resonate today. we have more of
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he said he is still hopeful for a bigger deal to address the debt and the deficit. >> a lot to talk about with our next guest. reaction from capitol hill from kentucky republican senator rand paul. we welcome you, snofrenator. do you think we'll get a deal on the sequestration issue before march 1st? >> you know, all these people carping about sequestration being harmful to the economy. that would presume that the government creates wealth by spending money. i think that's a ridiculous keynesian notion that's been disproved for the last 40 years. so i think cutting spending is precisely what you should do to spur the economy. when money comes to washington and it's spent, that's how it's disruptive and spent inefficiently. let's leave that money in the marketplace. >> are you saying you want to see the sequester happen? >> the sequester barely cuts any icing off the top of the cake. spending is going to rise $9 trillion over the next ten years. the sequester takes 1 trillion off of that. spending still goes up $8 trillion over the next ten years. that's why bowles/simpson said we need 4 t
he said he is still hopeful for a bigger deal to address the debt and the deficit. >> a lot to talk about with our next guest. reaction from capitol hill from kentucky republican senator rand paul. we welcome you, snofrenator. do you think we'll get a deal on the sequestration issue before march 1st? >> you know, all these people carping about sequestration being harmful to the economy. that would presume that the government creates wealth by spending money. i think that's a...
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that's really what the problem is in terms of the deficit. we have this debt that's still exploding, part of the policy uncertainty. the more we can -- >> i think my point also is, wouldn't we be seeing more signs that whatever the fed has done, may have been working better had washington not shot us all in the foot? >> i think it's -- i think it's the whole policy package to the. the fed has been very interventionist if you like. they're trying to do a good job, i think it's not helping. but also we've had the stimulus packages, a whole wide range of things like this which has been a drag. >> we have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us this morning. it's been a pleasure. >> a lot of fun. >> thank you. >> come back. >> next time you'll have kernen -- he won't give you a hard time. >> not as bad as you. >> coming up, two very big interviews that you can only see right here on "squawk." former treasury secretary robert rubin. he's in the green room now. he's going to join us on the "squawk" set. we'll talk about the economy, big
that's really what the problem is in terms of the deficit. we have this debt that's still exploding, part of the policy uncertainty. the more we can -- >> i think my point also is, wouldn't we be seeing more signs that whatever the fed has done, may have been working better had washington not shot us all in the foot? >> i think it's -- i think it's the whole policy package to the. the fed has been very interventionist if you like. they're trying to do a good job, i think it's not...
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they're among the leaders the obama administration is turning to for advice on everything from the deficit to taxes to the broader economy. >>> then, after we talk to them, they're going to paint a picture for us, we're going to turn to two powerful investors for insight into what the conversation in washington means for the broader markets. cowen and company ceo jeff solomon will join us, and the bond king, bill gross. first, steve will bring us up to speed on the morning's top stories. steve? >> thank you, michelle. disney posting better than expected earnings and revenues after the bell. the company says it expects the next few quarters to be better on a stronger lineup of films and growing attendance at its theme parks. ceo bob iegory was on cnbc's "closing bell." >> you had a lot of ins and outs. basically, the trendser good. we had strong results at our domestic parks. the bookings have been pretty solid. advertising was okay. and generally speaking, our business performed well. and our interactive media group was profitable for the quarter. that's the first time the group has been p
they're among the leaders the obama administration is turning to for advice on everything from the deficit to taxes to the broader economy. >>> then, after we talk to them, they're going to paint a picture for us, we're going to turn to two powerful investors for insight into what the conversation in washington means for the broader markets. cowen and company ceo jeff solomon will join us, and the bond king, bill gross. first, steve will bring us up to speed on the morning's top...
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we don't need to do this now so i think we should -- we've done plenty of deficit reduction for right now. the newest cbo numbers show the deficit is going to come down dramatically in the next couple of years. let's get to another election. >> can you really say -- can you real say we've done deficit reduction when in fact the only thing that was cut was the projected it was -- laura. we still have $16.4 trillion in debt. that's -- >> yes, and i want to ask you, maria, what's the concern about that? can we pay off that debt? all of the world's bond markets and capital investors think we can. i think we can. i don't know why we want to fix it sate on that number right now. i want to fixate on fixing debt to gdp ratio. i said, there was more work to be done. we do not have to do it this year and we do not have to do it in this way. >> real quick, what are the olds of the deal? bob? >> ah, 30%. >> 30% odds of a deal. you agree with that, laura? >> you know, we might blow through the sequester deadline. i think once people look at the cuts that are required, they are going to back away,
we don't need to do this now so i think we should -- we've done plenty of deficit reduction for right now. the newest cbo numbers show the deficit is going to come down dramatically in the next couple of years. let's get to another election. >> can you really say -- can you real say we've done deficit reduction when in fact the only thing that was cut was the projected it was -- laura. we still have $16.4 trillion in debt. that's -- >> yes, and i want to ask you, maria, what's the...
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you look at what california, my great state did, over the last year closing their budget deficit overnight really with tax -- big tax rise that governor brown got through. gold is the fear trade and look how quickly that has abated here in california. that potentially is a mantra for the country, and if people think the fear trade is gone. where are they going to go, equities and 14,000 may just be the beginning. that's what i see. >> that's right. >> the gold rush is over in california, again. >> thanks, everybody. we'll see you soon. appreciate your time. we are watching dow 14,000 going into the close tonight. josh lipton is right now looking at the stocks leading the comeback. over to you, josh. >> maria, big gains today following yesterday's selloff and lots of new highs starting with the dow transports, hitting a new all-time high year-to-date. the transports have outpaced the dow industrials by over 4%. all driving the rally, information technology stocks, computer sciences. the biggest gainer in the sector and on the s&p 500 today, up around 10%, a turnaround story, the i.t. compan
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let's get the deficit down. big picture stuff that never really surfaced in the obama administration. >> it absolutely didn't. and again, perhaps that's a reason the council is going away. the recommendations that -- the big picture items that the council recommended were never really adopted by the obama administration, never pursued, despite the fact that these are people the president appointed and had significant business experience. and somebody again that would lend credibility to us as republicans and democrats in congress as a way to come together to get this country's economy moving. in my view, the situation has not changed. in fact, as we saw by the numbers you just reported, the lack of jobs, the slowing of the economy are still here, perhaps getting more evidence that things are going in the wrong direction, not the right direction. and all the more reason to have something to coalesce around the darn partisanship of washington, d.c. and the differences between congress. and i could say every time i
let's get the deficit down. big picture stuff that never really surfaced in the obama administration. >> it absolutely didn't. and again, perhaps that's a reason the council is going away. the recommendations that -- the big picture items that the council recommended were never really adopted by the obama administration, never pursued, despite the fact that these are people the president appointed and had significant business experience. and somebody again that would lend credibility to...
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we have a deficit problem that puts at risk this recovery. so, there's a lot of government action that's needed. and on that score we haven't been that productive. there's a lot of concern about the deficit, quantitative easing and whether this rally is fundamentally induced or as a result of the money that the fed has pumping into the system. >> that's been an issue, gary, as far as the federal reserve pumping money. it's all about the fed, not necessarily about fundamentals. >> right and. >> and the failed bond sale. how are you allocating money right now? >> so me and -- i and the other members of tiger, high levels of cash, less fixed income. the fear that interest rates will rise. but we're starting to allocate more to private equity and public equity with historic numbers in private equity. 20% across the board allocated to private equity where a lot of america's wealth has been built for individuals. there is a movement back towards equity. as i say, it's not a stampede. it's measured because there's still a lot of concerns about some
we have a deficit problem that puts at risk this recovery. so, there's a lot of government action that's needed. and on that score we haven't been that productive. there's a lot of concern about the deficit, quantitative easing and whether this rally is fundamentally induced or as a result of the money that the fed has pumping into the system. >> that's been an issue, gary, as far as the federal reserve pumping money. it's all about the fed, not necessarily about fundamentals. >>...
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i mean, it has a primary deficit. so the problem is, if you don't save enough, if you're saving enough, you can be like japan. you can fund yourself. but if you don't save enough, you're using all the dry powder. you're using your banks and the social security fund to buy your own debt. this can only last for a certain amount of time. >> there is an interesting question, though, as to whether -- you mentioned this whole cycle and which this whole loop. some of what we've seen for european debt crisis is this vulcanzation to some extent. is it better or worse than spain's problems are less exposure or are sort of in this -- in this internal cycle as opposed to there being more exposure for investors outside the country. >> it's better for europe as a whole and in 2013, we are positive on the european market, on credit markets as a whole. we don't think the same domino effect is arising from, for example, economic, political issues in spain or political issues with alternative action. but for spain itself, it puts the c
i mean, it has a primary deficit. so the problem is, if you don't save enough, if you're saving enough, you can be like japan. you can fund yourself. but if you don't save enough, you're using all the dry powder. you're using your banks and the social security fund to buy your own debt. this can only last for a certain amount of time. >> there is an interesting question, though, as to whether -- you mentioned this whole cycle and which this whole loop. some of what we've seen for european...
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the deficit problem is the problem for later in this decade. the jobs problem is the problem today. and this talk of a contracti contractionary fiscal position. it is hurting the economy. >> he wantive harris? >> in the end, we've got to get our deficit under control while we grow the private sector economy. we can't do it through new taxation. you can't tax your way out of this mess. that's the problem. the president has decided that's the approach he's going to take. the republicans have a different approach. we believe we have to rein in entitlement spending, the budgets up until now. again across the aisle and on the other side, they're unwilling to handle. >> we'll leave it there. thank you. >> let you both get back to work. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> appreciate your time. thanks very much. isn't it nice to know in two weeks you haven't missed anything? >> this sounds familiar. >> 40 minutes before the closing bell sounds. dow down 103 points. >>> google getting downgraded after a record high on friday when we allegedly hit 14,000. why did that happen? and are you
the deficit problem is the problem for later in this decade. the jobs problem is the problem today. and this talk of a contracti contractionary fiscal position. it is hurting the economy. >> he wantive harris? >> in the end, we've got to get our deficit under control while we grow the private sector economy. we can't do it through new taxation. you can't tax your way out of this mess. that's the problem. the president has decided that's the approach he's going to take. the...
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we've been running deficits for years. the deficit has narrowed. china had excellent numbers as well. the bottom line is this, our fourth-quarter gdp, it was negative 0.1%. because of the positive trade data, it's going to be revised likely positive. we'll have positive fourth-quarter gdp. that's a plus for the stock market overall. we moved up today on the trade data news. sectors, it's 3 to 2 advancing -- maybe a little bit better. hmo stocks, very strong. molina had strong numbers. but the key story is all about these trade wars and currency wars as well. did you see what happened yesterday? we've got draghi versus japan. this is a big, big international battle right now. draghi talked down the euro. the euro had been strong against the yen and of course today the japanese finance minister came out and said, we're sorry, maybe the yen's gone a little too far. now he's got to go to the g-20 meeting in the next few days and explain why the yen has weakened so dramatically and hopefully people will be too angry with them. many people like the auto
we've been running deficits for years. the deficit has narrowed. china had excellent numbers as well. the bottom line is this, our fourth-quarter gdp, it was negative 0.1%. because of the positive trade data, it's going to be revised likely positive. we'll have positive fourth-quarter gdp. that's a plus for the stock market overall. we moved up today on the trade data news. sectors, it's 3 to 2 advancing -- maybe a little bit better. hmo stocks, very strong. molina had strong numbers. but the...
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let's put us on a path to managing down the debt and deficit. that's what we're for. >> representative cantor -- i'm sorry. i'm sorry to interrupt. i just want to understand, though, is there a new environment there washington now? because we've been talking about the perception that you and the democrats and the president are working to the better. would you characterize it that way or not? >> well, i certainly hope so. you know, again, and the difficulty in working with the president thus far has been that he's not demonstrated a commitment to try to do something about the out-of-control spending. and we know it's all connected to the entitlement growth in this country, and it seems as if he's not willing to tackle that. we remain committed to working with him, and i hope that he can lead. you know, listen, i know that our international allies are looking for america to get its fiscal house in order so that they can see a better day in their country. we've got folks here at home that we want to help. and that's why we're taking the positions t
let's put us on a path to managing down the debt and deficit. that's what we're for. >> representative cantor -- i'm sorry. i'm sorry to interrupt. i just want to understand, though, is there a new environment there washington now? because we've been talking about the perception that you and the democrats and the president are working to the better. would you characterize it that way or not? >> well, i certainly hope so. you know, again, and the difficulty in working with the...
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we're expecting, you know, 8 billion wider deficit, and 46. and last month, had the most subtle revisions, we'll just call it a push. so you know, i'm going to have to ponder this. we know that there's a lot of foreign exchange going on in the world. most of it right now isn't free market driven, it's central bank printing driven. thinking this through, of course, is going to have big possibilities for strategic trades down the road. especially if the offshoot of what's going on potentially between europe, japan, maybe to a lesser extent china, is going to boost the value of the dollar. is that something that's going to help or hurt? how important is this number? all that, of course, will be defined by the market at some point. yields are a bit lower today. as a matter of fact on thecoms, one week ago today, friday, pretty much the high close going back to april for most maturities. for the ten year 202 closing yield. we're 18 basis points higher on the year. back to you. >> hey, rick, this is a big deal for that fourth quarter gdp growth. >>
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can reduce its budget deficit. john harwood has more. >> the big question in washington is what is the next budget deal to reduce the deficit going to be? what is going to be in it? will it be spending cuts or revenue? the president said in the super bowl interview with scott pelley yesterday that it has to include revenue and singled out one in particular, that is the carried interest loophole. >> i don't think the issue right now is raising rates. there is no doubt we need additional revenue coupled with smart spending reductions, in order to bring down our deficit. and we can do it in a gradual way so it doesn't have a huge impact. the average person doesn't have access to carried interest income where they end up paying a much lower rate on billions of dollars that they have earned. >> now, going into the president's favor as he tries to go after this is a widespread belief on wall street, even that this is an unjustified loophole, one of the top figures on wall street told me the other day it is an outrageous
can reduce its budget deficit. john harwood has more. >> the big question in washington is what is the next budget deal to reduce the deficit going to be? what is going to be in it? will it be spending cuts or revenue? the president said in the super bowl interview with scott pelley yesterday that it has to include revenue and singled out one in particular, that is the carried interest loophole. >> i don't think the issue right now is raising rates. there is no doubt we need...
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president obama once again says he's going to seek to get new revenue to help bring down the deficit and specifically, he's now calling out carried interest tax breaks again. we'll see where that goes. plus, the story that everyone is talking about this morning, the ravens holding on to beat the 49ers in the super bowl after the lights went out for 45 minutes at the superdome. we're going to try to keep the lights on. "squawk box" begins right now. ♪ if you like it then you should have put a ring on it ♪ ♪ if you like it then you should have put a ring on it ♪ >> good morning, everybody. i'm becky quick along with andrew ross sorkin. joe kernen is on vacation today so we're joined by steve liesman. we're happy to have him here. our top story this morning, the market. we have assembled a trio of wall street's most respected voices to join us for the next hour. we have a lot to talk about this morning. plus, there is that issue of the lights going out at the super dole last night. officials say an abnormality in the power system triggered an automatic shutdown forcing backup sy
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i think that's where we have the possibility of the next significant round of deficit reduction which will probably include both spending cuts and revenues if the president gets his way. >> thank you. in the meantime straight it mary thompson. i believe have you a developing story for us. >> that's right. dow jones reporting department of justice with state attorneys general preparing civil action against the rating agency standard and poors. it relates to firm's ratings prior to the financial crisis of 2008. if correct this would be the first legal action taken by the government against a rating agency for the activities leading up to the financial crisis. it reportedly comes after settlement talks between the two sides looks down. unknown right now is whether other rating agencies, including moody's, will be charged as well. investigations frequently point to the ratings agencies as contribute together melt down. linked to the risk of sub prime mortgages linked to investors. the ratings were granted by the rating agencies. e-mails to standard and poors were not returned and attorney
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about structural reform and that they are going to do something to reduce the size of the deficit and if we don't under v a he is quest earn we get another compromise that considers raising taxes or does something other than address the structural issues, i think that will be negative for the market in the near term. >> wow, 35% gain in the dow in a couple of years. scott, you're big guy but those are pretty big numbers. is this more hope yum or is it real old-fashioned earnings growth? >> i think that earnings growth, brian, we have sort of run the course on that. i think that there could be modest growth from here but best days of earnings growth are behind us for now. i think it is plain old-fashioned and i was in davos last week. i ran into steve liesman there. he wanted to get me out for a drink, but you know how hard that is. anyway, you know, i think that the consensus is that the crisis is behind us. not just the european crisis but the whole crisis. and this relief we are having gives a sense of euphoria and is pushing us higher. and i don't see anything standing in the way a
about structural reform and that they are going to do something to reduce the size of the deficit and if we don't under v a he is quest earn we get another compromise that considers raising taxes or does something other than address the structural issues, i think that will be negative for the market in the near term. >> wow, 35% gain in the dow in a couple of years. scott, you're big guy but those are pretty big numbers. is this more hope yum or is it real old-fashioned earnings growth?...
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. >>> when thele toings who are responsible for solving our debt deficit issues are the same ones against cost-cutting at the post office, it means we're in pretty deep trouble. we'll talk about it next. stay with us. ak. surgery was successful, but he will be in a cast until it is fully healed, possibly several months. so, if the duck isn't able to work, how will he pay for his living expenses? aflac. like his rent and car payments? aflac. what about gas and groceries? aflac. cell phone? aflac, but i doubt he'll be using his phone for quite a while cause like i said, he has a fractured beak. [ male announcer ] send the aflac duck a get-well card at getwellduck.com. riding the dog like it's a small horse is frowned upon in this establishment! luckily though, ya know, i conceal this bad boy underneath my blanket just so i can get on e-trade. check my investment portfolio, research stocks... wait, why are you taking... oh, i see...solitary. just a man and his thoughts. and a smartphone... with an e-trade app. ♪ nobody knows... [ male announcer ] e-trade. investing unleashed. >>> and final
. >>> when thele toings who are responsible for solving our debt deficit issues are the same ones against cost-cutting at the post office, it means we're in pretty deep trouble. we'll talk about it next. stay with us. ak. surgery was successful, but he will be in a cast until it is fully healed, possibly several months. so, if the duck isn't able to work, how will he pay for his living expenses? aflac. like his rent and car payments? aflac. what about gas and groceries? aflac. cell...
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is actually the smallest deficit we've had in several plus years. so roughly we're going to round this out. roughly 30%. so for every dollar we spend we're borrowing 30%. i remember when i coined that i think it was on "meet the press" i said we borrow 42 cents for every dollar we spend. you can see how it's come down. on that regard that isn't bad news but here's the problem. let's take medicare/medicaid. m & ms. that's roughly say 23% of the total 3.5 trillion. all right. now let's take social security. that's roughly 20%. let's take defense. roughly 20%. let's take our interest expense, servicing the debt? currently around 7% but growing. that's about 70%. okay. let me get this straight. 70%. so basically if you look at our last year of data, all the money that we actually took in on the 3.5 trillion goes to these programs which means all other spending, all other spending, and this is the best level it's been at only 30%, all other spending is borrowed money. that's the problem. that's why we can't be happy. that's why european growth rates will
is actually the smallest deficit we've had in several plus years. so roughly we're going to round this out. roughly 30%. so for every dollar we spend we're borrowing 30%. i remember when i coined that i think it was on "meet the press" i said we borrow 42 cents for every dollar we spend. you can see how it's come down. on that regard that isn't bad news but here's the problem. let's take medicare/medicaid. m & ms. that's roughly say 23% of the total 3.5 trillion. all right. now...
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>> and the fed -- >> -- the deficit. >> right. >> in addition to that. just want to be clear. >> yeah, you're right. >> one point here which is that i don't know if any economist who when you tell them to factor in nearer term government spending cuts -- >> no -- >> end up raising up -- >> but they do, joe -- >> outlie years. >> let him finish. >> he's saying that -- you weren't watching yesterday. but he's saying you can't -- it's the near-term effect of austerity and government spending that could hurt. >> correct. >> the thing is, we're told that during a recession the government comes in and supplies the demand that isn't there from the private sector. it's been 4 1/2 years. it's been 4 1/2 years. do we ever take the training wheels off? >> we already have -- >> mark knows this -- >> the debate isn't actually more stimulus. the debate is how much restraint there should be. right? >> i think jared would want -- >> he said do things to create jobs -- >> you would come up -- >>-ish he means less cuts. >> -- you don't mean less cuts do you, jared? you wo
>> and the fed -- >> -- the deficit. >> right. >> in addition to that. just want to be clear. >> yeah, you're right. >> one point here which is that i don't know if any economist who when you tell them to factor in nearer term government spending cuts -- >> no -- >> end up raising up -- >> but they do, joe -- >> outlie years. >> let him finish. >> he's saying that -- you weren't watching yesterday. but he's saying you can't...
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we have been running a deficit for years, as you know, sue. but this time it is narrower than anticipated. remember it was negative. 0.1. a positive print on gdp likely when the revision comes in. you see the big pop there this morning? that's because of the trade numbers overall. so good numbers, good day overall. don't worry about volume and we are staying until the bitter end, sue? >> indeed you are, bob. appreciate it. meanwhile, big snowstorm is bearing down on the northeast nap is sending fuel prices to new highs for 2013. sharon epperson tracks the action for us at the nyse pits. hi, sharon. >> hi. already paying the highest gasoline prices for this time of year, now many in the northeast who heat homes with heating oil will be hit with record high home heating bills as well. we are looking at prices just this week alone for heating oil few furs surge 3% leading energy markets higher here and we are continuing to watch what is happening in terms of the percentage of homes in the northeast that use heating oil. of course it is only 6% of
we have been running a deficit for years, as you know, sue. but this time it is narrower than anticipated. remember it was negative. 0.1. a positive print on gdp likely when the revision comes in. you see the big pop there this morning? that's because of the trade numbers overall. so good numbers, good day overall. don't worry about volume and we are staying until the bitter end, sue? >> indeed you are, bob. appreciate it. meanwhile, big snowstorm is bearing down on the northeast nap is...
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a lot of folks think we need to cut and solve the deficit and now when we face cuts and face austerity, it's very difficult. the bottom line is that because of the divided government, it's very difficult for there to be a global solution that would, you know, make a lot of rationale sense. and, instead, we're facing a series of cuts like the sequester that although they look disorganized are slowly getting us towards a more balanced budget. i think the markets have pretty much digested the fact that the sequester is likely. i doubt that it will have a significant impact on the markets because i think everybody already knows it's likely to happen. >> this goes back, again, to one of your concerns. certainly a concern for a lot of people in the u.s., which is where is the middle any more inspect and it's interesting because in your career you've switched parties. explain that move. are there going to be any more like you? >> well, you know, i used to be a moderate republican and now it's a moderate democrat. but the truth is, there aren't very many moderates in either party. 20 years ago
a lot of folks think we need to cut and solve the deficit and now when we face cuts and face austerity, it's very difficult. the bottom line is that because of the divided government, it's very difficult for there to be a global solution that would, you know, make a lot of rationale sense. and, instead, we're facing a series of cuts like the sequester that although they look disorganized are slowly getting us towards a more balanced budget. i think the markets have pretty much digested the fact...
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the only kind of conservative ideas he has really come on national security issues and debt and deficit, apparently. but new jersey's republican party is much different. think scott brown, massachusetts, to some extent. he might be able to win in new jersey, but certainly doesn't fit in in the u.s. senate. but maybe the first senator to have a chair thrown at him on the floor because the climate relationships are going in that direction, howie. >> what is it -- >> he's a great guy, by the way. i love geraldo. >> i like him on his radio show. is he a plausible politician? on that point, what it with talk show hosts because he's hardly the first one who have pretty successful careers and then they get the bug and muse on the air about wanting to run for high, political office? >> i think that they see, you know, how easy it is and how doing a talk show. you show up, you recite talking points and you yell at your colleagues and the audience and that's it. they figure, you know, they need a bigger stage for this and that maybe there's an easier way to actually make a living than to actually
the only kind of conservative ideas he has really come on national security issues and debt and deficit, apparently. but new jersey's republican party is much different. think scott brown, massachusetts, to some extent. he might be able to win in new jersey, but certainly doesn't fit in in the u.s. senate. but maybe the first senator to have a chair thrown at him on the floor because the climate relationships are going in that direction, howie. >> what is it -- >> he's a great guy,...
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to pay down the deficit. and potentially to make our businesses more competitive. now, i think this balanced mix of spending cuts and tax reform is the best way to finish the job of deficit reduction. the overwhelming majority of the american people, democrats and republicans, as well as independents, have the same view. and both the house and the senate are working towards budget proposals that i hope reflect this balanced approach. having said that, i know that a full budget may not be finished before march 1st, and unfortunately that's the date when a series of harmful automatic cuts to job-creating investments and defense spend, also known as sequester, are scheduled to take effect. so, if congress can't act immediately on a bigger package, if they can't get a bigger package done by the time the sequester is scheduled to go into effect, then i believe that they should at least pass a smaller package of spending cuts and tax reforms that would delay the economically damaging effects of the sequester for a
to pay down the deficit. and potentially to make our businesses more competitive. now, i think this balanced mix of spending cuts and tax reform is the best way to finish the job of deficit reduction. the overwhelming majority of the american people, democrats and republicans, as well as independents, have the same view. and both the house and the senate are working towards budget proposals that i hope reflect this balanced approach. having said that, i know that a full budget may not be...
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if we combine those things together, then we cannot only reduce our deficit, but we can continue to invest in things like education and research and things that will help us grow. >> meantime, the president leaves washington tomorrow for minnesota to make his case for new gun restrictions. it's part of an attempt to pressure congress to take action in the wake of the horrific shootings in newtown, connecticut. the president has called for new safety programs and universal background checks. he also wants congress to renew the assault weapons ban. >> let's talk more now about the president's push for new gun restrictions with our contributors lz anderson and anna, in washington, a republican strategist. so guys, as the president gets ready to take his message on the road, the white house released a photo that shows him skeet shooting at camp david. there he is in his golf shirt, firing away. so anna, the president says skeet shooting is something he does all the time at camp david, but until a week ago he had never even mentioned it before. what is going on here? >> look, i think -- i think
if we combine those things together, then we cannot only reduce our deficit, but we can continue to invest in things like education and research and things that will help us grow. >> meantime, the president leaves washington tomorrow for minnesota to make his case for new gun restrictions. it's part of an attempt to pressure congress to take action in the wake of the horrific shootings in newtown, connecticut. the president has called for new safety programs and universal background...
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that shortfall is called the deficit. when you add together all the annual deficits and the interest on them, you get the national debt. today that stands at $16.4 trillion and a whole lot of change. that comes out to $52,000 for every american man, woman, and child. economists agree the best way to bring down that number is to grow the economy. that means more tax revenue coming in and fewer people relying on the social safety net. new numbers show the economy isn't growing. the economy is shrinking. america's gdp fell by an annual rate of 0.1% in the last quarter of last year. the last time that hand was during the recession. economics professor and unapologetic liberal paul krugman says the u.s. needs to wait for economic growth come back before even thinking about spending cuts. >> the power of the household analogy is very strong. remember, we all -- the liberal leeng congress made fun of boehner when he said families have to tighten their belts, the government does, too. that's stupid. three months later, obama was
that shortfall is called the deficit. when you add together all the annual deficits and the interest on them, you get the national debt. today that stands at $16.4 trillion and a whole lot of change. that comes out to $52,000 for every american man, woman, and child. economists agree the best way to bring down that number is to grow the economy. that means more tax revenue coming in and fewer people relying on the social safety net. new numbers show the economy isn't growing. the economy is...
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he suffers apparently from a mild form ofs an purchasinger's syndro syndrome, attention deficit disz order. what do they need to do to get this boy going, restart his life? >> it's going to be a bit complicated. first of all, by the fact that he does have asperger's. the problem there is oftentimes, as many people know, that means that there's difficulty with communication skills. and one the things that is going to be especially difficult is to get him to be able to verbalize in a very nuanced way what he needs to say about what happened. i think that's going to be their biggest hurdle. getting him to talk about the trauma. it's going to have to take place in his time, when he feels like talking about it. so the first thing is they're going to need to take him to a place where he feels very, very safe. the fact that he was ripped from that bus under those circumstances means that his sense of safety, potentially, could be compromised almost for the rest of his life. a stain of that memory. so trying to reach him verbally, making him safe, letting him know that the people who were ta
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that, you know, we've heard from republicans, we want to shrink the government, we want to shrink the deficit but not the why. >> i definitely think we are about solving the big problems, macro fiscal problems. the president hasn't joined us. but the reason we're doing that is we want to help people. we don't want to see interest rates skyrocket. what's that going to do to people who are already struggling to pay their mortgage? we don't want to see taxes go up anymore. what's that going to do to somebody who already has now just experienced a tax hike. we want to make life work again, and the path to do that does include trying to get a handle on the fiscal situation here in washington, but it also means putting in place policies that help people with their health care costs, their education needs, college tuition and the rest. >> you want to make people's lives better. some might ask how you can do that and still slash the federal budget the way you want to slash in order to meet your other goal, which is to reduce the deficit. >> well, again, these are, you know, things that we're trying t
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>> i would add ironically the budget deficit is falling. certainly as a percentage of gdp and we'll get on tuesday, i think, from the congressional budget office new budget figures that show, in fact, that the deficit is dropping and dropping pretty significantly. >> guys, one last question to each of you. you have been watching the markets for so long. we have near records for stocks. gdp that shrank, jobs growth that is okay. why is the market so excited about what's happening either corporate profit or the economy? >> you know, that is a good question. i think a lot of people have been asking it. i think we have been in the context of record corporate profits. the fundamentals of the stock price. if you added up all the money that the market forecasts that the company will make in the future, that's how much the stock should be worth. so, record corporate profits in some sense should have been reflected in higher prices already. and now, the only reason they weren't, i think, is because people were afraid that washington might blow it up
>> i would add ironically the budget deficit is falling. certainly as a percentage of gdp and we'll get on tuesday, i think, from the congressional budget office new budget figures that show, in fact, that the deficit is dropping and dropping pretty significantly. >> guys, one last question to each of you. you have been watching the markets for so long. we have near records for stocks. gdp that shrank, jobs growth that is okay. why is the market so excited about what's happening...
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republicans will say you've got to decrease the deficit and the president will say, you know what, we have to perhaps think about spending a little bit of money to get out of this and to try and reduce that unemployment. so they are going to come at it from different sides, wolf. the big thing to think about here is the president's approval rating. it is now at 52%. that gives him an awful lot of leverage on these economic issues. >> he's going to need that if he's going to get some of these agenda items through. >> every bit of it. >>> a u.s. senator's travel habits are under fire right now and may land him in serious legal trouble. we have the document showing that senator bob menendez, did not, as requested, to report that he accepted free plane trips. >>> and the fall of a man who was once the most catholic leaders in the united states. it's chevy truck month! silverado was also recognized for the lowest cost of ownership. hey, what are you gonna do with it? end table. oh. [ male announcer ] it's chevy truck month. now get 0% financing for 60 months, plus trade up to get $1,750 to
republicans will say you've got to decrease the deficit and the president will say, you know what, we have to perhaps think about spending a little bit of money to get out of this and to try and reduce that unemployment. so they are going to come at it from different sides, wolf. the big thing to think about here is the president's approval rating. it is now at 52%. that gives him an awful lot of leverage on these economic issues. >> he's going to need that if he's going to get some of...
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and tell him we love him. >> we had also seen reports that he may have asperger's or also attention deficit disorder, that he may have had a couple challenges like that. did you ever see anything like that? do you think -- how will that impact him here as he starts down this path of healing? >> well, i honestly believe that ethan will probably -- it's a shame that this had to happen but for any child that i believe will bounce back better than any child i know of, would be ethan. he meets no strangers and i just feel confident he's going to bounce back and we hope to have him in school as quickly as possible. >> so special that you say that. i want to ask you a little about his mother. you just heard me share the statement that she released to the media which was so eloquent and gracious. she also, according to a state senator, said this when the fbi, they were debating whether to go in and kill jimmy lee dykes earlier. she was the one, according to the state senator who said she put her hand on the officer's heart and said sir, don't hurt him, he's sick. smith told that today to abc news.
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we are also told he has attention deficit disorder. psychologically, how is this going to affect the little boy over the long term? >> i think any ability in any trauma that happens to a child, whether they have a psychiatric or mental health problem or not is going to fall heavily on them. the biggest message we can send to this child by his mother and father is he is safe and he is protected because he didn't feel safe and he wasn't protected and he ended up in this situation. that's the biggest impact on a child, especially after something is resolved. luckily, this is successfully resolved. but safety and protection is key for him. >> and of course, we don't know at this point what happened? we don't know whether there was sexual abuse or physical abuse or what happened in the bunker. >> exactly. right. and i mean the tendency is going to be to swarm around him to get information, both to help him and to understand what went down, down under that ground. but the bottom line is, the next few days are critical for this boy to bond wi
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. >> the fact is, though, we can't finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone. we can't. >> yes, we can. yes, we can. >> god bless you and god bless the united states of america. >> that's what i'm talking about right there. >> a little something light hearted for you this morning. "early start" continues right now. >>> new developments in the all-out man hunt for a suspected cop killer right now. police blanketing a ski resort. >>> monster blizzard. boston and new york right in the path of this thing. thousands of flights already canceled. good morning. it is friday. welcome to "early start." so much going on. >> i love all your energy. great to have you. >> it's going to be a big weekend. shoveling snow. that's what berman is probably doing. >> boston is really getting hit hard. i'm zoraida sambolin. friday, february 8th. up first, we are bracing for that big one. right now millions of people from maine to new jersey are waiting for a blizzard that could actually rewrite the history books, folks. take a look at the radar of this storm right now. forecasters ar
. >> the fact is, though, we can't finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone. we can't. >> yes, we can. yes, we can. >> god bless you and god bless the united states of america. >> that's what i'm talking about right there. >> a little something light hearted for you this morning. "early start" continues right now. >>> new developments in the all-out man hunt for a suspected cop killer right now. police blanketing a ski...
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of 34 former players studied, 20 are were found to be normal, the other 14 diagnosed with cognitive deficits. >>> take a look at these amazing shots. canadian astronaut chris hatfield snapped these breath taking pictures of earth from the international space station. that is 250 miles above the planet's surface. since he had no direct internet connection, he's been sending the images through nasa to his son and evan then posts themselves online for his dad's twitter followers and space fans. >> you just don't get enough bars on the space station for the internet. >> i love the collaboration with his son. very cool. thank you. >>> 18 after the hour. we're getting an early read on your local news making national headlines and we'll start with this from colorado's reporter herald. 7-year-old alex says he can't believe he was dispended. his mother says he was actually suspended for trying to save the world from evil. the principal told her that alex threw a fake grenade during recess. she says he didn't have anything in his hands. he made no threats. he was simply using his imagination. the scho
of 34 former players studied, 20 are were found to be normal, the other 14 diagnosed with cognitive deficits. >>> take a look at these amazing shots. canadian astronaut chris hatfield snapped these breath taking pictures of earth from the international space station. that is 250 miles above the planet's surface. since he had no direct internet connection, he's been sending the images through nasa to his son and evan then posts themselves online for his dad's twitter followers and space...
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the president has also been slammed for ignoring his deficit commission." so is he at odds with eric cantor? is he right? >> well i've chose on it stay out of the politics and try to focus on policy and particularly try to focus on building bipartisan support for policies around entrepreneurialship. the reason we're the leading competent in the world isn't the work of an accident but entrepreneurs. focusing on people and watching that, ultimately in the action of playing companies but washington plays a role making it easier to invest, improving access to talent around immigration, improving access to capital with crowd funding and ipos with the jobs act, it only can happen in a bipartisan way so i understand kind of the debates and the fun when people go back and forth with the talking points. the reality is republicans and democrats have come together around entrepreneurship over the past couple years, we need to continue to build progress with or without a jobs council and that's what i'll continue to try to help facilitate. >> steve case thank you for j
the president has also been slammed for ignoring his deficit commission." so is he at odds with eric cantor? is he right? >> well i've chose on it stay out of the politics and try to focus on policy and particularly try to focus on building bipartisan support for policies around entrepreneurialship. the reason we're the leading competent in the world isn't the work of an accident but entrepreneurs. focusing on people and watching that, ultimately in the action of playing companies...